Prior to COVID, I was working in a Year 11 and 12 College in Tasmania, and found one of the benefits of the Titration Competition was the fact that the students actually went to UTas and were in the chemistry labs there rather than at school. It was for a number of our students a great experience as they had barely left the northern suburbs of Hobart. While running it at school rather than UTas has been easier for me, the students have been missing out. Now in the present one of the Grade 9/10 Teachers at my current place of employment, just talked about the titration competion yesterday to me and how good it would be to be part of it.
Well I now need to go back and read what everyone else has said.
Original Message:
Sent: 12-08-2024 18:04
From: Reyne Pullen
Subject: Titration Competition – Alternative Perspective to Consider
Hullo both!
Apologies for the delayed response to your private messages Daniel - I've now responded :)
Thanks for your response Tom - you raise some good points and I always welcome the opportunity to discuss the merits of outreach and education for an organisation such as the RACI. I think it's important to remember that a key part of the RACI Charter is engaging in public and school-based outreach and education. In my mind, this should be considered just as important as direct services and benefits to members since we are the national society that represents chemistry at all levels. You are right though that it is hard to articulate impact as such - being an education researcher (alongside my chemistry background), this is a constant challenge where understanding an individual's experiences or influences becomes an extremely complex issue to disentangle. Particularly when the timeframe between participation in these programs and graduating as a chemist (or similar degree pathway) might be years. Despite this challenge, the anecdotal responses and feedback received at the community level (even years later) always echo those micro-moments where students engaged in a positive experience such as the titration and crystal growing competition. Many of my co-students who grew up in Australia when we went through undergraduate studies at UTas had participated in those programs and cited those (alongside interactions with teachers a host of other reasons) as part of what attracted them to pursue and continue chemistry. Long answer that doesn't really specifically address your concerns but I think if we had to quantify the impact of everything we do of this nature, it would be hard to justify anything at all!
On the matter of sponsorship, I'm sorry that you had that experience. I think industry sponsorship of these sorts of events can be a very positive arrangement but it does depend on the organising body to negotiate what that looks like with the industry partner. Each time I have been involved in something like that, I spend a considerable amount of time at the beginning detailing what it looks like, how the money translates to the event, and what the outcomes should be to ensure both parties are happy. I also think there are times where feeding back into the community is a priority for the organisation (a bit easier perhaps in Tasmania where the community is so small that it tends to be very connected to industry by necessity).
We now have a team within the National Office that is directly working on partnership with industry and what that sponsorship looks like so I think they'd be an excellent point of contact if you wanted to explore opportunities that have a more direct outcome for your business - I would be happy to point you in the right direction if that is useful :)
Thanks again to you both for offering your perspectives and continuing the discussion.
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Reyne Pullen
Original Message:
Sent: 12-08-2024 16:08
From: Thomas (Tom) Smith
Subject: Titration Competition – Alternative Perspective to Consider
Hello Reyne, I take your comments seriously, because of your expertise and knowledge of the chemical education sector. I would go further than Daniel, and suggest that the RACI should cease altogether supporting such activities as titration and crystal-growing competitions. I think the RACI's overarching consideration should be "how does this (planned) activity advance the aims of the RACI - will it lead to more students taking up the profession of chemistry, will it lead to a greater understanding of what chemistry is, what it involves and how it affects our lives".
I needed your post to remind me of the very large effort that is required from volunteers to run these competitions. The logistics alone are very considerable. But to what end? Do we have any metrics as to how many students have been encouraged to further their chemistry studies as a result?
About industry sponsorship. Companies pay out money to advertise their products to potential customers, demonstrate and promote the products face to face or in company-controlled presentations, or to build their brands. Sponsoring school competitions doesn't really fit. I made a mistake years back when we were launching our Multitrator multi-mode titration system. I sponsored the RACI titration competition held at one of the university venues in Brisbane. We got nothing out of it, not even a mention. The next year, the organiser got snarky with me when I said I wouldn't do it again.
I'm not in the ed-biz, so I really can't offer anything meaningful as to how the RACI can support the teaching of chemistry in schools. 'However, I do have a feeling that kids should be introduced to science in general and chemistry in particular much earlier in their education journey, and that from the beginning it should be done in an exciting and involving way.
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Tom Smith
Original Message:
Sent: 12-08-2024 11:51
From: Daniel Turner
Subject: Titration Competition – Alternative Perspective to Consider
Hi Reyne,
As per my private messages, I am quite happy to discuss some of my thoughts with you in relation to the titration competitions being more akin to a proficiency testing activity that provides recognition to all participants able to achieve suitably acceptable results.
Dan